"SVTyler" (svtyler)
06/25/2016 at 09:48 • Filed to: None
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"SVTyler" (svtyler)
06/25/2016 at 09:48 • Filed to: None | 2
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As if filing a protest against Risi Competizione for their leader lights wasn’t enough of a bitch move to begin with, rumor has it
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That certainly would have explained a protest, but it does not explain why the Ford representative presented the Risi team with what amounts to an ultimatum.
That was expressed in clear terms and went along the lines of, if you promise not to race us for the win then this protest goes away, if you fight us then we’ll file it immediately.
Take it with a grain of salt but DailySportsCar is a pretty reliable source and considering Ford’s attitude towards the race I wouldn’t put it past the team to do something even more petty to get the 1-2-3 finish they wanted.
If you want to see how sportsmanship and winning are done, look at the LMP works teams talking to Hugue de Chaunac (president of Oreca, who built the TS050) after the race:
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LongbowMkII
> SVTyler
06/25/2016 at 09:53 |
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I still don't get the hubbub. It's not like it was for overall. I'm surprised that most people are happily swallowing this excercise in marketing via racing.
EL_ULY
> SVTyler
06/25/2016 at 09:56 |
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Dat IMSA (NASCAR) drama making it’s way to WEC runs.
Ganassi/Ford.... the Kardashians of motor sport?
Sam
> SVTyler
06/25/2016 at 10:06 |
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Getting a win off a technicality is a shitty way to win. Porsche didn’t file a damn petition after this one -
Also, if they really attempted to bribe the Risi guys, they are scum and should be penalized themselves. That’s just dirty and unsportsmanlike.
Needmoargarage
> SVTyler
06/25/2016 at 10:08 |
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I’m not sure I’d put much stock in the DailySportsCar article. Their explanation/discussion on the GTE Pro BoP missed a lot of key points and seems to be written from an outside perspective. Not that I think the FIA/ACO BoP system is great...but still.
As far as the contesting goes...yeah kind of lame but most people likely don’t know the whole story and/or how the rivalry developed that race.
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SVTyler
> LongbowMkII
06/25/2016 at 10:09 |
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I think the marketing angle is why it bothers people. Like, Ford was well on its way to winning its class in the biggest race in the world and even then that’s not enough, they have to manipulate the results for its own profit. It kind of goes against the spirit of competition, which is kind of what Le Mans is all about.
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Sam
> LongbowMkII
06/25/2016 at 10:11 |
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Isn’t marketing via racing what every road car manufacturer that has entered the has been doing for the past 60 years or so?
Nothing
> SVTyler
06/25/2016 at 10:15 |
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Proof? Without such, it’ll always remain a rumor. Ford being a sore winner, or Risi being a sore loser and trying to throw more mud at Ford?
To me, I don’t understand how ignoring a penalty is ok. Laugh at NASCAR is you want, but if you get a penalty, it’s not optional.
Regardless, it was an entertaining race. If you pay too much attention to the background politics of sport, it’ll simply ruin your enjoyment of them.
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SVTyler
> Needmoargarage
06/25/2016 at 10:18 |
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Their editor is relatively well-connected from what I can gather (he’s done stuff with Marshall Pruett and the other articles he’s written have been pretty accurate) but I agree the BoP explanation was a bit hokey. Sportscar365 is a more reliable site but I still use both because there’s not too many people covering WEC/Weathertech in too much detail.
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SVTyler
> Sam
06/25/2016 at 10:19 |
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I love that advertisement so much.
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SVTyler
> Nothing
06/25/2016 at 10:25 |
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I mean, if you’re Risi and you’re fighting for the Le Mans win in the last hour, would you really pull into the pits considering how many other cars had lights out during the night and went unpenalized? Either way you’re losing your podium spot with either a pit stop or being disqualified, might as well make a statement about it.
I try not to pay too much attention to the background of the sport either but it’s the biggest race of the year and (before Toyota’s turbo blew) the biggest story of the race, so as a Ford fan the way they went about it kind of put a bad taste in my mouth.
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Needmoargarage
> SVTyler
06/25/2016 at 10:47 |
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Gotcha. Yeah they kind of skipped over the whole BoP adjustment made after qualifying, as well as real explanations why the Ferarris and Fords were so quick for qualifying.
You think they’d make an effort to explain how they enforce and enact BoP adjustments. E.g. the lack of sonic restrictors in turbocharged cars means map adjustments to regulate BoP. FIA/ACO assigns these boost curves under fixed atmospheric conditions, but obviously those change. Qualifying happened to be an ideal time for particularly mapped turbocharged engines, thus partially explaining the huge differential in times of Ford/Ferrari and the rest.
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SVTyler
> Needmoargarage
06/25/2016 at 11:20 |
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It would definitely be cool if the organizers released some sort of technical explanation like that so both media and fans could understand what exactly it is they’re doing. Not really sure if any major series (if any at all) do anything similar but with as much attention as BoP has gotten this year and a couple new cars on the horizon for 2017 the ACO/FIA is the best organization to try it out. Could go a long way to clear up some of the mess that’s happened this year.
Viggen
> SVTyler
06/25/2016 at 11:29 |
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It’s for sale from Porsche as a shirt.
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Viggen
> SVTyler
06/25/2016 at 11:48 |
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With further questions still very much alive about the manner in which the raceday illness of Cooper MacNeil (in the car backed by the IMSA Championship title sponsor) was dealt with, and the ongoing status of Corvette Racing’s place at Le Mans are being handled by the ACO there is again a serious debate to be had.
So, can anyone explain why Corvette Racing is suddenly being brought up in all of this?
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SVTyler
> Viggen
06/25/2016 at 12:09 |
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That honestly confused me too, no idea. Apart from the BoP this year I’ve heard nothing about Corvette Racing having any issues with the ACO or whatever, maybe this dude’s just exaggerating something he heard in passing.
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Viggen
> SVTyler
06/25/2016 at 12:10 |
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Maybe. Perhaps the ACO is pissed that some American team keeps coming over for one race and winning.
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SVTyler
> Viggen
06/25/2016 at 12:12 |
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Yeah for $55 lol. Time to find a bootleg version I guess...
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Sam
> SVTyler
06/25/2016 at 12:24 |
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And if it was 2016 Ford doing the advert, the title would have been “Sauber/BMW Broke The Rules”
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Needmoargarage
> SVTyler
06/25/2016 at 17:34 |
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Totally agree. IMSA has something available through their page (at the bottom clock ‘For Competitors’ and you can read up on that kind of stuff. I don’t think they are completely transparent about their methodology unfortunately. There’s just so much more to racing then the average fan will ever be able to see :/